Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/17 17:08Sure, I understand and its a valid point, will see what I can do in the next days since I have to install it again no worries. I am also testing the power current and voltage drawn from my room with engineering so it might be power related but I don't think so. I have it at the new updated BIOS factory stocks now and its running at 1.038V. Under 2D performance no issues but i have not tried a 3DMark benchmark session as I want to wait what the voltage draw of my sockets and room is. What did you read from the updated BIOS, any good for the Gigabyte OC model? Cheers and thanks as always.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/17 21:53Okay, I gotten home and checked the new version from Gigabyte that you attached and indeed this one is running at 780MHz which is a pre-overclocked one and it also has a higher voltage level. While the default clocked cards are typically running at around 0.9630V that overclocked version is already set to run at 1.0255V. What I didn't get exactly is what you have issue? Is it that it can't run anymore at that speed or it is that you want to lower the voltage?
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/18 04:14Guess this is a standard and good BIOS setting? Yeah I assumed I have issues with that high voltage of the card not being stable since its a mass product and some cards can't take this high voltage of the GeForce GTX 570 apparently. I need more testing with the new setup and report back if I still have driver and kernel crash in the event viewer with this new ForceWare 270.61. This might have been the issue before.
However I had it downtuned to 0.963V and 0.975V as well in Afterburner and it could not run a stability test with Kombustor. That's why I was afraid the card might be damaged and with a better BIOS it should work out, let me benchmark a bit more but with 3DMark instead, thanks!
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/18 08:55Euh, sorry but I think you are thinking in the wrong direction. First of all your GeForce GTX 570 should be able to run at the clock speeds set by Gigabyte with its untouched original BIOS or the updated one from their website. If this is no longer the case than since you got warranty don't even waste too much time and simply use it. This because something will be of too low quality and you will either have to settle with the idea to run it at default speeds, meaning you paid a premium for nothing.
Secondly if the increased voltage can't handle the higher clock speed it will be either because the voltage is not enough, and that would mean that your GPU is of too low quality or it producing too much heat and in that case we would remove the cooling solution to refit it with the right amount of thermal paste. Though doing so your warranty will be lost. So what I would try is to bump the voltage and see what it gives. Or you clock it down to default clocks and lower the voltage and see what that gives.
But you should really consider to simply play out the warranty cause sooner or later you will just face the same issue again and you can't keep lowering the clocks or bumping the voltage. Use the warranty when you still can and get the card replaced. At least that is what I would be doing immediately as I only play around when a card is good enough and yours simply isn't and can't even work as advertised.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/18 09:24Looks like yes, the GPU might be of top low quality. I would not mind to have the pre-overclocked settings back to a stock 732MHz and 0.9630V voltage as soon as its working. However with the stock voltage and clocks it must run, if it doesn't I will return it immediately and get an EVGA GeForce GTX 580 instead. Lets see maybe there is still hope for this baby, thanks again.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/18 10:51That is your own calling, for me if it didn't work as advertised there is just one route and that is go back to the shop and ask a replacement. In Belgium the shop has to honor a 1 year warranty and as such will have to offer an replacement, and will of course afterwards return the card to the manufacturer. If he wouldn't have on in stock than either a new card will ordered and reserved, a full refund will be proposed or exchange versus another brand of same price or you could add some money to get a higher replacement.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/18 14:23I have flashed different BIOS's and it was always the same outcome, instant black screen when I want to run 3DMark and I had to hard reset. One more thing I have checked whether my power is okay but I don't see an issue there, what I have noted is that my 3.3V from the mainboard sensor is showing aroun 2.9V and I believe it should not be at that voltage, but I guess the 3.3V does not power the GPU?
Unfortunately I don't have that luxury. I life overseas out of any RMA being possible, so I have to take the card with me next time I go on holiday in 2-3 weeks and then RMA on the spot and get a replacement. But it's gonna be a GeForce GTX 580. I read about too many issues with the GeForce GTX 570's. Thanks for your help and will report back if any BIOS changes coming up. Cheers.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/19 10:33elysion wrote: One more thing I have checked whether my power is okay but I don't see an issue there, what I have noted is that my 3.3V from the mainboard sensor is showing aroun 2.9V and I believe it should not be at that voltage, but I guess the 3.3V does not power the GPU? That shouldn't be an issue as the graphics card is powered by the PCI Express interface and the 12V rails. It is quite common that the 3.3V is lower than what it should but having only around 2.9V seems a bit low. Though the 3.3V is mainly used for the CPU if I am not mistaken and if that doesn't give any issues than you should be fine. Also the mainboard sensors are never really that accurate.
Unfortunately I don't have that luxury. I life overseas out of any RMA being possible, so I have to take the card with me next time I go on holiday in 2-3 weeks and then RMA on the spot and get a replacement. But it's gonna be a GeForce GTX 580. Okay, and yeah I guess than it is a bit harder to get a replacement and that you want to try out some things first to see if it makes any difference. If they all give the same behavior I would indeed be looking forward to your holiday and get the RMA done at that time and get a replacement.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/19 14:03Hi, well turns out the 3.3V was indeed the issue and the card is running on benchmarks so far. I have run twice 3DMark06 and its looking great. Just curious for the stock voltage and clocks, shall I leave them at the 1.038V as set in the Gigabyte BIOS update or better lower to 1.013V as with its original BIOS? I have it at 1.025V and I tried all of them and it looks stable so far. Thanks.
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Re:GeForce GTX 570 shows great overclocks of 875MHz or more? - 2011/05/19 15:50Okay, so that means the graphics card was not the issue of the black screen but rather the CPU not getting enough juice or rather a combination because the graphics card going in full power draw mode and the processor as well and as such not getting enough would mean being in trouble and not being able to keep the system running. Good catch and indeed what I would try is to lower the voltage if possible.
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