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does the new vlim4 architecture bring significant improvements? - 2010/12/17 13:55 The answer is simple: no.
In my point of view AMD/ATI are falling back thanks to a very bad marketing strategy. A strategy that allowed the red company to brand their previous products with numbers that confused customers (see 6850 and 6870)
Now the evil strategy continues by bringing on shelves two products that are merely a 10% more powerfull in terms of brute force compared to the good 5870 one.
The red company is also accusing the green one of a not limited tesselletion processor...it seems AMD did not try to realaborate too much their first tessellator presented with the 4xxx series instead.
So making it short an overclocked 5850 card or a 5870 one are still good enough to play and they are only 10/15% less powerfull than a 6970.
The 6850 and the 6870 got some tesselation thread management improvements...maybe AMD changed some sleep values this time!
We are in a front of a cloning war.
This time I will be stuck with my graphics card for at least a couple of years...good luck you AMD/ATI!
Ah...what they told recently...the new 69xx series would be considered like a pioneeristic one just like the r300 was? Did they become confused with all those numbers?
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Re:does the new vlim4 architecture bring significant improvements? - 2010/12/18 00:03 I never felt the tesselation story was a good one to believe...I think a good and a pretty simple lecture to start with should be this one:
google to find "amd richard huddy need to lie about tessellation"
Amd turned back with their new products which are so poor...labeling them as revolutionary as the r300 architecture was it is a big mistake and a big lie!
This time AMD let me free to disapprove their lack of talent!
Never have been so much impressed by nvidia and now I am not impressed by AMD either...when the heck Larrabee will come on?
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Re:does the new vlim4 architecture bring significant improvements? - 2010/12/18 16:28 Apart my critics in front of the last AMD products I have to admit the company did a good job considering they put a great power in so small gpus like the 5850 and 5870 are.
The 6950 and 6970 are instead a clear step backwards in terms of real architecture innovations and design.
Not to speak about the confusing 6850 and 6870 cards.
Recently many web sites did review the 6870 and targetted it as a best choise when compared to the 5850 and 5870 old models.
This consideration came out when the 6870 was compared to the 5870 by performing the unigine heaven benchmark.
Now having acquired that the tesselation processor inside the last models is a single thread based one some simple and approssimative calculations may be done in order to determine why the 6870 is slightly faster than a 5870...the performance secret is represented by the gpu frequency clock...therefore the amount of smd units did not alter the performance so much, probably at all.
The offensive part in this full story is that AMD is trying to let believe their customers that their tessellator has been restyled...it can be simply proven the contrary by pushing the 5850 and 5870 cards to 900 mhz and then the magic will happen.
Probably instead the 6870 card tessellator uses less resources but its own single thread task is to process data picked once per time...a recipe this one that is old like the human being.
In conclusion we are in front of two useless products like the 6850 and 6870 respective ones and as for the 6950 and 6970 we are in front of an old machine which body has been restored.
This time AMD did a very bad work...they started very well with the introduction of the 5xxx series and then they lost.
Is AMD sick? Maybe we can help and cure their disease...giving them some $$$ would help?
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