Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/01 06:50Hi all, my motherboard is an ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA and I ordered a gently used PNY GeForce 8800 GT 512MB. Now reading through the forums I'm more than likely not going to get any screen when I install it, I however have another computer that is a Socket 939 with NVIDIA chipset that only has a PCI Express slot. I'm hoping I would be able to post on that and flash the graphics card to the BIOS that would than work and give a post on the display which seems a typical issue with some VIA chipsets.
So here are my questions, lets say for the sake of argument that I tried to boot up with this new video card on this other Socket 939 motherboard, if I don't get any video, is there a way I can type in the commands without having the screen turned on? Or will I require a board to boot with the video card. This version should work for my card correct? I got it from the PNY section on this site, the BIOS is Rev.04 and the version is 62.92.23.00.51. I'm hoping the BIOS on this video card is already updated, but I doubt it.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/01 10:43Tork64 wrote: Hi all, my motherboard is an ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA and I ordered a gently used PNY GeForce 8800 GT 512MB. Now reading through the forums I'm more than likely not going to get any screen when I install it, I however have another computer that is a Socket 939 with NVIDIA chipset that only has a PCI Express slot. Your post has been moved to the thread that is all about it and with some reading on the forums you would have known the answer to your questions. But first why don't you try the card in the ASRock board and see what it does. It might be all a waste of energy as it might work. And if it doesn't than you put it in that Socket 939 and it will work and you flash to that BIOS you have in mind, that's it normally. Good luck.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/13 20:42Hello everybody, I'm assembling a computer from my old hardware for one of my friends. It has ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 mainboard having a VIA PT880 series chipset and I've got Gigabyte GeForce 8800 GT really cheap and I thought there wouldn't be any problem but that was a big misjudgement. The Gigabyte doesn't come as the reference design, and nvFlash said there isn't an NVIDIA card and NiBiTor option for Gen1 is unavailable. So I've ask for help on Gigabyte support and nobody answered yet. I just want to ask if there is somebody who can give me some kind of advice. I would really appreciate it.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/13 21:02TobiasRi wrote: The Gigabyte doesn't come as the reference design, and nvFlash said there isn't an NVIDIA card and NiBiTor option for Gen1 is unavailable. So I've ask for help on Gigabyte support and nobody answered yet. I just want to ask if there is somebody who can give me some kind of advice. Well I would have hoped you would have at least read the thread or at least some pages back and you would know the solution. But okay to repeat, this is because of the whacky VIA chipset and you will need to find a friend who has a normal chipset like of Intel or NVIDIA to flash your card to a BIOS with version 62.92.23.x or higher. And that will make the card to work afterwards just fine on your VIA based mainboard.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/14 07:39First, I want to thank you for your answer. I surely read a lot of solutions online, but the truth is I didn't read all the pages here so maybe I missed something. Back to my problem, the actual BIOS available from Gigabyte for my version of card is based on NVIDIA source BIOS version 62.92.1F.x. There is also version based on 62.92.23.x but just for Qimonda memory cards. But as I said, nvFlash doesn't see my card so I can't load it with force option and Gigabyte flash utility said its different type of card, BIOS flash denied. Hopefully guys in support will prepare new BIOS. Thanks again.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/14 11:53TobiasRi wrote: There is also version based on 62.92.23.x but just for Qimonda memory cards. But as I said, nvFlash doesn't see my card so I can't load it with force option and Gigabyte flash utility said its different type of card, BIOS flash denied The memory should be a real concern and I do suggest you read what I wrote just before. You will never be able to flash your GeForce 8800 GT with the current BIOS on it, on your ASRock mainboard. Never means never, until you have flashed the card on another system, with an Intel or NVIDIA chipset to the 62.92.23.x version. Good luck, as that is what they all had to do and this is just because VIA has a very crappy chipset with bad PCI Express compatibility scaling.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/14 13:53Hi, I do understand what you said. Everything I wrote was done on another system, with Intel P35 chipset. So nvflash has problem with video card not with mainboard. According to this my only hope is new BIOS from Gigabyte for my version of card. Do we understand each other now or am I missing the point? Thanks again.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/15 11:37TobiasRi wrote: Hi, I do understand what you said. Everything I wrote was done on another system, with Intel P35 chipset. So nvflash has problem with video card not with mainboard. According to this my only hope is new BIOS from Gigabyte for my version of card. Do we understand each other now or am I missing the point? Thanks again. Next time it would have been great you mentioned that from the start, that you have used nvFlash with an Intel P35 based mainboard, which you didn't so I was assuming you tried on your system with a VIA chipset. Being clear on what you do and how makes it more it a lot easier for us to help you. Now which version of nvFlash did you use? And don't try that Gigabyte tool, it is just crap and based on nvFlash so it can't do it better but rather worse.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/15 18:45Thank you very much for you good will. I didn't wrote about using another system because I thought its obviously. I tried nvFlash v5.40. Now I see its not latest version so I will try it with v5.72?
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/11/15 20:32TobiasRi wrote: Thank you very much for you good will. I didn't wrote about using another system because I thought its obviously. I tried nvFlash v5.40. Now I see its not latest version so I will try it with v5.72? We always read what is written and we don't make assumptions, other forums might do that and as such give advise that sometimes, and more like often leads to nowhere enb even more problems. And we have seen many come here that gotten bad advise elsewhere. So we don't go that path we rather stick to the professional style. Well the version of nvFlash might have been the issue, so I would first propose to use nvFlash v5.57. Don't use the newest one as that is released more for the GeForce GTX 200 series. The nvFlash commands haven't changed since.
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