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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/06 13:02 jkesa wrote:
No luck, its still unstable after successfully flashing with the new PNY BIOS. I even put on an additional power supply to the auxilary 12V connector, giving it an additional 17Amps in addition to my Fortron 535W unit. It runs somewhat okay until I install the NVIDIA drivers.
You are welcome, I was somehow hoping it would be solving the issue but no luck. Well at least we tried everything and indeed most likely something wrong with your card so best to get it replace.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/20 04:24 Well, I got the replacement card and it came with the exact same old BIOS as my original one did. I flashed it with the new PNY BIOS and so far all looks well. At least so far it has lasted longer than the previous card did.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/20 08:46 jkesa wrote:
Well, I got the replacement card and it came with the exact same old BIOS as my original one did. I flashed it with the new PNY BIOS and so far all looks well. At least so far it has lasted longer than the previous card did.
Okay so at least the new card with the latest PNY BIOS is now working for you, so that is good. And yeah I doubt that PNY still gets new GeForce 8800 GT's as they would be rather selling the new GeForce 9800 GT's instead.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/22 00:41 Hello, I have been following this thread since last night, re-reading tens of pages. Now I still have a problem. I suspect memory timings, but my technical expertise doesn't tell me much about it. First, I have an MSI GeForce 8800 GT silent with factory overclocking of 660/1900MHz with shaders at 1650MHz and it couldn't recognize on my VIA P4M900 chipset. Initially, I did the ASUS Gen1 flash which worked, but Crysis or 3DMark06 always crashed about 15min after running. So a blue screen and everything blacks out, resetting the machine. Things get worse when I up the clocks on my OC edition.

Tried old MSI BIOS being Gen1 and now after I install teh ForceWare drivers, the whole screen started artifacting. I ditched that. Then I found on these forums a guy who posted the 62.92.23.x BIOS from MSI, it is an official BIOS. I installed it, and this time around the problem is a little different. Crysis runs okay for extended period at the default 660MHz clock but 3DMark06 gives up after 5min. However, no blue screen this time instead there is a window popping up saying driver has failed, please reboot and send report to Microsoft.

Hmm, I don't know what is the issue here. Would anyone be kind enough to explain TimingSet and active TimingSet? Those terms seem alien enough to me. I would suspect that is the problem. Also, since my performance increased after flashing from BIOS's of other manufacturers, out of curiousity I just want to know, what is the difference between BIOS's of different brands if they both have the same BIOS version? Is it just a sub vendor name change, or is there a deeper difference? Thanks.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/22 00:57 Now I am downclocking my card to the GeForce 8800 GT reference clocks, 600/1800MHz and I am looping all 3DMark06 tests. Will post results, I plan to stress my PC at least 6 hours while I am out. Mmm bad news, 3DMark06 crashed during second loop. Now using ATITool on overclock mode doesn't seem to give problems when stressed. Also, does anyone here have 62.92.24.x MSI official BIOS? Do you think that might solve the problem? If not, should I reflash my card using the EVGA one? Thanks.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/22 19:22 despair8 wrote:
Now I am downclocking my card to the GeForce 8800 GT reference clocks, 600/1800MHz and I am looping all 3DMark06 tests. Will post results, I plan to stress my PC at least 6 hours while I am out. Mmm bad news, 3DMark06 crashed during second loop.
First of all your problem has really nothing anymore to do with what this thread is about cause from what I understand you should simply return your card as it can't even work as it should at its default speeds, as it is warranted to ruin at 660MHz but it fails, see blue screen. The blue screen is not just caused by the memory, but overheating and that is not normal. So for me one solution, return the card it is just bad since the start and makes no sense in trying to fix it at all. You just got some bad luck with a bad card, which can happen.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/29 07:30 Yeah RMA it, no sense fighting with a flaky card. I went just through that with my PNY GeForce 8800 GT. The new card has been working flawlessly with the new BIOS downloaded from here for over a week now. I did notice one thing. I had to reduce my overclock on my 4CoreDualSATA-2 by about a 100MHz with the PCI Ewpress card versus my old GeForce 6800 XE AGP version. That seems like a common thing to do. So if you're overclocking your VIA P4M900 chipset board, you may want to try that first.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/29 12:37 jkesa wrote:
I had to reduce my overclock on my 4CoreDualSATA-2 by about a 100MHz with the PCI Ewpress card versus my old GeForce 6800 XE AGP version. That seems like a common thing to do. So if you're overclocking your VIA P4M900 chipset board, you may want to try that first.
Well that could be normal as the GeForce 8800 GT draws more power so it might have some effect on the power available to the other components. Though I would believe that with a good power supply that shouldn't really be an issues, unless it is due to the AGP to PCI Express change really, and the PCI Express bus being overclocked as well. Just see if you can fix the PCI Express bus speed or not, cause that way you should be able to overclock your CPU easily as before.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/30 00:29 Mavke wrote:
Well that could be normal as the GeForce 8800 GT draws more power so it might have some effect on the power available to the other components. Though I would believe that with a good power supply that shouldn't really be an issues, unless it is due to the AGP to PCI Express change really, and the PCI Express bus being overclocked as well. Just see if you can fix the PCI Express bus speed or not, cause that way you should be able to overclock your CPU easily as before.
Nope, not a power supply issue because like I mentioned before I can throw an additional power supply on it just for the 6-pin connector and additional 15Amps on it. And that makes no difference. It's the motherboard, and is quite common on it. I have the PCI Express, AGP and PCI locked at 100MHz, 66MHz and 33MHz respectively. It's a very good crossover motherboard, but one has to respect its limitations, which I knew when I bought it.
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Re:GeForce 8800 GT, and any ways to edit out PCI Express 2.0? - 2008/10/30 13:20 jkesa wrote:
It's the motherboard, and is quite common on it. I have the PCI Express, AGP and PCI locked at 100MHz, 66MHz and 33MHz respectively. It's a very good crossover motherboard, but one has to respect its limitations, which I knew when I bought it.
Okay, point taken and indeed such a mainboard with AGP and PCI Express will have its limitations somehow, but indeed a good way to make the bridge from AGP towards PCI Express.
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