Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 00:14Well, so then how do you enable null....? Wich drivers do you use for your card and how do you get the null function to work.....
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 00:15HeavyH20 wrote: Fury wrote: Can you provide links to the scores? I can get 90k easy when I null, is that what you did?
No, these runs were not tweaked runs. I just used the standrd settings to verify the BIOS changes. I ran my AMD 64 3200 at 2.5 GHz fro the tests. When I want to max the score, I run the CPU at 2.8 GHz.
Oh I see care to volunteer what your not mentioning? hehe, phase change?
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 00:27You use coolbits, then enable the null 1.x and 2.x in the More Direct 3D option. Then, all the objects are empty, so no rendering takes place, which really relaxes the video card. You see a ton of white You can usually detect the cheat. The GFX score is around 2K above the CPU. My null run is around 13k on the CPU and 15 K on the GFX.
I don't like phase change, not good for LAN parties. I use Innovatek watercooling on my system. An NV40 for the video card, a double 120 mm rad, a single 120 rad, and the xflow CPU block. Works quite well. The 2.8 on the Winnie is a pretty common overclock, especially for week 41 and up. But, I have seen a phase change Winnie well over 3 GHz. The CPU score was close to 15K on AM3
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 00:37I don't like phase change, not good for LAN parties. I use Innovatek watercooling on my system. An NV40 for the video card, a double 120 mm rad, a single 120 rad, and the xflow CPU block. Works quite well. The 2.8 on the Winnie is a pretty common overclock, especially for week 41 and up. But, I have seen a phase change Winnie well over 3 GHz. The CPU score was close to 15K on AM3
Roger that, lil too much for portability. Sounds like a nice system you should blast a few pics and share that bad boy! Innovatek, nice!!!! I got the coolmatics on my nv38 and nv40 but with lil modding it will fit the NV45, but I havent squish tested the block on NV45 yet, so I dont know if it will totally fit right, I think the HSI chip will get in the way as a squish test revealed using the Danger Den nv-68 block we got...
*Edit* I know someone is scratching there head, so I need to reiterate that with the current milling of the NV68 water block the HSI chip of the NV45 gets in the way.
Looks great eh? Well it didnt seat properly until we modded it...
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 01:21 Thanks HEAVY for the modded bios - will try later.
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 06:37Fury wrote: I don't like phase change, not good for LAN parties. I use Innovatek watercooling on my system. An NV40 for the video card, a double 120 mm rad, a single 120 rad, and the xflow CPU block. Works quite well. The 2.8 on the Winnie is a pretty common overclock, especially for week 41 and up. But, I have seen a phase change Winnie well over 3 GHz. The CPU score was close to 15K on AM3
Roger that, lil too much for portability. Sounds like a nice system you should blast a few pics and share that bad boy! Innovatek, nice!!!! I got the coolmatics on my nv38 and nv40 but with lil modding it will fit the NV45, but I havent squish tested the block on NV45 yet, so I dont know if it will totally fit right, I think the HSI chip will get in the way as a squish test revealed using the Danger Den nv-68 block we got...
*Edit* I know someone is scratching there head, so I need to reiterate that with the current milling of the NV68 water block the HSI chip of the NV45 gets in the way.
Looks great eh? Well it didnt seat properly until we modded it...
Sorry keenan kinda hi-jacked your thread...
What mod was needed. I was planning on using two of those at month end when the two PIC-E Ultra's were supposed to show up. I know the Innovatek does not fit, but I thought the DD block would clear.
Thanks for any info!
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/01 13:02Hi, the DD NV-68 fits the attachments points and clears all of the PCB population, the problem we had was the in the intitial squish test revealed that the gpu core was barely making contact to the copper clad. This picture shows the issue. Basically what we do and we wish everyone else would too is check for gpu/vpu contact by performing this same method, it's basically easy to do, which consist's of applying a cheap thermal paste and cover the GPU and memory modules entirely and assemble the water block to the GPU as if you where going to install it perminately, then dissasemble the block and check the following area's as we did:
As you can see the contact on this block was rather "ify" from all angles, but the GPU barely touches the copper clad, so I am thankful I decided to check this before pounding down a burn in session to seat the block.
Our solution was rather impratical for most but for us it worked perfect, I took the block over to a friends machine shop and he took some calipers and some measuring devices/feeler gauge and proceeded to think it was because the memory deck height was causing the GPU relief area to sit just a c-hair to high, so he just milled the memory deck .0005" and now it makes solid contact... I cant say this is going to be an issue for everyone or if this was just our case, but its something that others should look into if your going to run NV68 on NV45.
Actually no matter what block one uses, its a good idea to do a mock install and see just what kind of contact your getting with certain blocks on certain cards with a "squish test"
Disclaimer: folks reading this, this is a NV40 waterblock and its craftsmanship is top notch, however this scenario was to install this on a NV45 so do not interpret this as a quality control issue, this is purely a stand point of enthusiastic modifications to migrate the block to our hardware and Danger Den is in no way at fault for our reasons for modding the block.
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Innovatek:
Our issue was a capacitor on the NV45 was causing clearance issues, so the mounting points where slightly off center:
However one can take a Dremel drum sander/grinder and mod this to fit, but Innovatek has a NV45 block thats going retail very soon, so this will not be a factor at that point, but anyway here is what the cap does for installing a Cool-Matic NV40 block ona NV45:
So, to the people spearheading the rush to water cool the NV45 this is some of the issues that will grind the install to a hault, the best bet is wait until these blocks are manufactured and tested and revised to fit NV45. Im going to get my friend to "end mill" the coolmatic and then I can check for gpu fit once we get the clearance.
P.S. will merge this into new thread and edit it to keep it on topic, I pulled a cardinal sin and rail roaded it off topic.
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/11 05:05 WOW.... This bios mod from heavy is SUPER........ It just keeps on giving me more - Brilliant HEAVY.. Reached my best bench in 3dm05 - 6011. Got my card to 475 /1275 without any artifacts - room for more i feel. Mods - any chance in the downloads section of nvidia bioses that you could place special / modded bios releases by members ? This site rocks.
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/12 04:44Hey snout i will like to know what vidcard u have... ??
I have a Pny6800GT flashed to Gainward GS but it max out to 410* 1100
also i got an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (Nforce3) with a AMD64 3500+ 90nm with
Corsair DDR4400C25 running a 200MHZ 2,2,2,5 C2 the best score on 3dmark03 was 12686 i will like to break the 13000mark barrier,,,
If i can use this leadtek bios to reach that goal,,, it will be a pleasure
Can u think it will give me more on the vidcard core??
I know the problem is my motherboard but without FW enabled it let me run happy...
Any help will be appreciate....
PD. So far happy with my NV silencer not more than 74C at full speed
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Re:Tried a number of 6800 U BIOS on my UEE - Leadtek wins - 2005/01/12 05:13 Hey snout i will like to know what vidcard u have... ??
riversde - i have a BFG 6800 ultra OC = stock 425 / 1100 Buddy. Not tried in 3dm03 yet but will give it a run. Reading around you should get your cpu to @ 2.5 - 2.6 ghz on stock cooling should you want to give it a try. - its quiet a good overclocker !!
Anyway flashed it to the leadtek (modded) bios upto 1.5 v - not sure that would be wise with the gt ? maybe wrong.
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You can usually detect the cheat. The GFX score is around 2K above the CPU. My null run is around 13k on the CPU and 15 K on the GFX.
i will like to break the 13000mark barrier,,,
