Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 00:21If you absolutly need a new system right this seccond, I would go for the EVGA nForce 680i since you want SLI. But being your current is a decent little setup I would wait a month or so and see what it brings. Cause MSI, DFI and ABIT are supposed to be releasing a nForce 680i chipset mainboard also the 975X is goin to be revamped as already stated. Don't hold back on memory but Corsair, Crucial, OCZ, G.Skill in 800MHz or higher
The trick is getting the lowest latencies with the highest freqs ie. 800MHz at 5-5-5-15 at 2.1V. This is basically overclocked 667MHz memory vs 800MHz at 4-4-4-12 at 2.0V... Crucial's 800MHz with 4-4-4-12 at 2.2V is rated also for 1000MHz with 5-5-5-15 at 2.2V. I know because I gotten a set of it right here just too bad my mainboard doesn't agree with it much.
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 01:39You are right, I don't need it this second but with my system I will look for the future and the system I want to buy before was an AMD AM2 but that isn't more the future I think. And if I have now the money, why not? I don't need it in a day or two so I wait a bit and look if DFI or MSI brings out the nForce 680i. If I found a guy buying my system for a good price, I will look and go out and buy me the new one. You mean the EVGA board?
With the CPU's, I read about those E6650 processors, but don't know when those come out. The ram what you think about those OCZ Platinum or Titanium rams? Good timings, PC2-8000U and timings are CL4-4-4-15. The best, but most expensive, choice are the Corsair XMS2 Dominator I think or OCZ PC2-8888, timings CL4-4-4-12. So many rams, so many choices...
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 02:02All the CPU's with the extra set of numbers the E6400 will become a 4MB cache instead of the 2MB etc. They are not out yet but shortly...yes the EVGA be the board of choice for right now.
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 09:52Well I would like to give you some heads up as I currently have a Core 2 Extreme QX6700 (quad-core) and well this has no multiplier lock as it is an Extreme and I am now testing 3.46GHz with it, meaning 13x 266MHz. Yeah normally it runs at only 2.66GHz, that is 10x 266MHz. I am now running some stuff to check stability. But the Core 2 Duo E6600 is still my best bet as it has 4MB cache...
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 10:29Mavke, isn't that probably the easiest overclock you ever performed? Couple clicks and waahaha! As my Core 2 Extreme X6800 also no multiplier lock, and the nForce 680i helps get more with the nTune software, voltages, memory settings, etc... Right at your fingertips in Windows, not accessing the BIOS and if you have trouble, reboot and start again, sweet! I have yet to have to clear the CMOS as I constantly did with my ASUS as their overclocking utility and BIOS still needs tweaking...
My latest ASUS board the P5N32-SLI Premium WiFi, with nForce 590 chipset had lockups, hard reboots and tried 3 different manufacture memory... Then clearing CMOS and with SLI, guess where the battery and jumpers were, lol. Yes pull a card to get at them, so a couple more tips there.
I don't think any Core 2 Duo is a poor performer but now all AMD processor from top to bottom are poor performer compared to the new Core 2 Duo. Any model, maybe why AMD sue Intel they knew it was on borrowed time from Intel. Just need to look at your E6300 performance, it is at near stock X6800 performance. I'm kinda chocked but that's chips and dips for ya. That's a $300 dollar CPU (erm $218) running with a $1300 dollar CPU, lets see AMD pull that off...
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 10:35jp7189 wrote: The E6600 is the slowest of the 4MB chips, and it's likely CPU's end up in that bin because they really are poor performers, comparatively. Forgetting price, I think the E6400 has much more potenial than the E6600. Well that I find one hell a statement. And I will need to strongly disagree. Yes the E6400 is the best 2MB cache CPU and I know that as I am somehow limited with my E6300, but that was at that time the only available CPU, no E6400 in stock... And I can just get it to 2.80GHz... But the E6600 is one of the best selling CPU's and it is actually as good as an E6700.
Why? Well from all the databases in the internet detailing how high you can get an E6600 or E6700, well then the E6600 is just doing as good as an E6700, which is kind of normal as it is actually the same CPU, but they Intel test those a bit. The best versions are going as X6800, and the others are just going as the E6700 and E6600...
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 11:11Cominferya wrote: Mavke, isn't that probably the easiest overclock you ever performed? Couple clicks and waahaha! As my Core 2 Extreme X6800 also no multiplier lock, and the nForce 680i helps get more with the nTune software, voltages, memory settings, etc... Well it depends what mainboard you got of course, I received from Intel a press sample which includes their own Intel 975X Express based mainboard to be used. So yeah, easier that is for sure, but still a lot of BIOS entering and reboots... And to reset the CMOS it is harder then on an ASUS 975X Express based mainboard. At least for ASUS, you can now just do reset and reboot and it will revert back automatically, with Intel that isn't the case. So I can tell you I rather use the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe...
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 11:14Then I would like to see you with a nForce 680i not sure about the ASUS one. It sure looks pretty, but maybe if stability is on par with the EVGA model you will never look back, its just so user friendly. Too bad you can't keep some of this new hardware, sure does help you shop though. This try before you buy, lol.
The ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium was supposed to do that simple restart thing, but only work sometimes and other times it would lockup repeatedly hang while gaming etc., painfull. Oh, looking at those switch positions on the ASUS Striker 680i with SLI there maybe issues accessing some of the board with my boilermaker hands anyway, hehe.
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 12:08Well I am currently looking out for a decent nForce 680i mainboard, but they are not easy to find in Belgium... And one of my local shops is actually mainly selling ASUS mainboards, and actually I have never had much issues with them. But I am open for any good nForce 680i.
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Re:Question about all those Intel Core 2 Duo CPU's... - 2007/01/06 15:25From what I can gather, clock for clock the Core 2 Duo E6600 versus the E6400, then the E6400 will come out ahead. The extra 2MB of cache doesn't make that much of a difference.
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